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Islander 04-19-2012 09:10 PM

Needs Your Opinion: Do You Ever Think About "Support Groups" Dear Friends
 
I was watching a movie yesterday; saw a girl attending a “Support group”, wondering why those groups are so important in some countries? I’m sure that you saw samples in many movies too. In a support group, members provide each other with various types of help, usually nonprofessional and non material, for a particular shared, usually burdensome, characteristic.
It sounds interesting, people with the same problem (Addiction, Sleep disorders, Alzheimer's, parents or children issues and….) gather around sharing their experiences and emotions. They never meet before but because of the same problem they can easily understand each other and talk about their very own case without embarrassing.
I really like to know what do think. Do you like such a thing? Would you attend them if we had the opportunity in Iran? Or you simply found it none sense?

P.S. I guess this is the matter of culture, so if you have such a subject on mind discussing them here will be nice



دانه کولانه 04-20-2012 12:14 AM

yes i saw them in some movies like fight club
using other's experiences can be very useful for example imagine there is a group which supports and discusses about adolescence's period's of children
one of good points is introducing wide range of probable problems and unexpected behaviors of youth by all members of that group.
as Maryam says , cultural problems may cause lack of participation
but i think this is not an individual problem , it is from basically structural cultural problem's of our sociaty , nobody likes to speak about the family's internal problems and arguments.

but i think there are some instances of such group in iran .
noghte sar e khat .


Islander 04-20-2012 01:02 AM

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نوشته اصلی توسط دانه کولانه (پست 259752)
yes i saw them in some movies like fight club
using other's experiences can be very useful for example imagine there is a group which supports and discusses about adolescence's period's of children
one of good points is introducing wide range of probable problems and unexpected behaviors of youth by all members of that group.
as Maryam says , cultural problems may cause lack of participation
but i think this is not an individual problem , it is from basically structural cultural problem's of our sociaty , nobody likes to speak about the family's internal problems and arguments.

but i think there are some instances of such group in iran .
noghte sar e khat .



Thanks for answering.
I thought there are some groups just for Addicts here, is there any for other problems too?
and I think I didn't make myself clear about culture, I meant these groups became a part of their culture, and there are some other cultural things that we are not so familiar with, then talking about some of them in foreign language part is good.
but you are right, we don't know how to talk , how to listen to people and also always try to hide our problems
and you know, I guess I can not join one of them either!!!!! I think It takes a very long time to people get use to it.
I couldn't find a clear history of theses support groups, but found out they are so Old
!

مهرگان 04-20-2012 02:32 PM

supporting groups - our opinions about supporting groups
 
yeap :)
nice topic with a title which attracted us, tnx islander :)
admin, ur english is really good, just one qst: Who is Maryam? any one participating in this topic?

to be honest, i have never heard anything about such groups, but that sounds like fun to be one the members of them, supporting groups. . .
404 !

as far as i remember, there were some readings about these groups in my english books at the time i went to language schools, at that time, i thought to my self, how good it is to be one of the members of them, but in my personal opinion, i'd rather to attend in a group which foreigners attend more !

mybe my opinion looks strange to some extent, but comparing society with net (using net you can have more relationship with foreigner) i prefer talking with thise not from my country. am more comfortable wuth them.
what do you think about the reason?
why do i like to be in a supporting group with more foreigners than iranians?

to be continued . . .


Islander 04-20-2012 08:28 PM

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نوشته اصلی توسط مهرگان (پست 259798)
nice topic with a title which attracted us, tnx islander [IMG]file:///C:/Users/Islander/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]
admin, ur english is really good, just one qst: Who is Maryam? any one participating in this topic
?


kidding? I think I just failed, not many responses!!! So I decided not to participate in Persian parts instead !!!!!!!!!! and I am Maryam, Dear friend.
.





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نوشته اصلی توسط مهرگان (پست 259798)


to be honest, i have never heard anything about such groups, but that sounds like fun to be one the members of them, supporting groups. . .
404 !
as far as i remember, there were some readings about these groups in my english books at the time i went to language schools, at that time, i thought to my self, how good it is to be one of the members of them, but in my personal opinion, i'd rather to attend in a group which foreigners attend more !

If you are interested in movies, you can see samples in : Rabbit hole. Fight club, Back up plan, Lost, Rachel getting married
.
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نوشته اصلی توسط مهرگان (پست 259798)
mybe my opinion looks strange to some extent, but comparing society with net (using net you can have more relationship with foreigner) i prefer talking with thise not from my country. am more comfortable wuth them.
what do you think about the reason?
why do i like to be in a supporting group with more foreigners than iranians?

Maybe you found foreigner more honest and frank, and I guess they really are. Or maybe it’s the matter of language. You know, sometimes a foreign language can act like a cover, make you speak more comfortable. For example I can be really talkative when I’m speaking English, but more silent speaking Persian and I’m not sure why

and nice pic
.

Saba_Baran90 04-20-2012 10:30 PM

Hey Guys
First of all honestly I didn't read all of your posts,But I've still got enough to say
A. Nice to see you Dane Kolane. We awe Maryam the pleasure of your presence
B. I totally like the idea I mean when you are stuck in a situation, what could possibly be more of relief than to know other people struggling with the same condition as you
I feels awesome to know that you are not the only one who's got that problem
Sharing experiences always works
I personally feel like I'm the only person on earth who's stuck like me sometimes and It would feel amazing to be proven wrong
There might not be a lot of this groups in Iran, But I think we can still share!


دانه کولانه 04-20-2012 11:50 PM

No i think there are some groups which include people living with cancer
and you know there is a group made by Darioush recently for addicts
generally i think there are many difficulty for making a group or community in IRAN for political reasons
as i mentioned using the others experiences can be very useful but imagine who wants to speak about his experiences at an AIDS group in Iran

thanks mehregan but my ability at writing in English is poor
maryam and islander and jojetighi! are 3of a kind !
یه توضیح کوچولو برای مهرگان و صبا دکتر احمدی دکتر احمدی(آرش و محمود) و یه دکتر احمدی دیگه از یه گروه دیگه توی یه جلسه ای بوده اند که دکتر رجبزاده هم بوده (حالا امیدوارم گوگل نکنند اینو !) ایشون خطاب به یکی گفته اینها تری آف ا کایند هستند( این یک اصلاح در بازی پوکر هست !)


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kidding? I think I just failed, not many responses!!! So I decided not to participate in Persian parts instead
i could not understand what maryam said at all !

maybe Foreigner are more honest but really implementation of their experiences in our life may cause some serious problems for us
we want you islander to be talkative at persian too ! not only in site.
-----------
the god from saba's hands!
she does not read our posts completely but she can talk enough!
maybe we can categorize these groups in to 2 parts
general groups
and specific problems group
the point you mentioned ,know that you are not the only one who's got that problem, can be find at general groups


مهرگان 04-21-2012 12:05 AM

talking about supporting groups
 
نقل قول:

نوشته اصلی توسط Islander (پست 259845)
kidding? I think I just failed, not many responses!!! So I decided not to participate in Persian parts instead !!!!!!!!!! and I am Maryam, Dear
friend..



If you are interested in movies, you can see samples in : Rabbit hole. Fight club, Back up plan, Lost, Rachel getting married
.

Maybe you found foreigner more honest and frank, and I guess they really are. Or maybe it’s the matter of language. You know, sometimes a foreign language can act like a cover, make you speak more comfortable. For example I can be really talkative when I’m speaking English, but more silent speaking Persian and I’m not sure why



and nice pic.



you have 'ekhtiar !' how do we say that in english?
this topic is so nice that i think about it sometimes a day and think about what ti write when i read the posts, tnx dear, honestly i thought you are a man ! dont know why ! once Dane Kolane named you as : m.Naseri and i thought it is: Mr.Naseri ! so 'ke intowr !' (please thell me that, too in english !) no, this topic is absolutly good, well done dear :)



ow! dane knows how i love movies ! you know, i watch a movie once a year ! i have just seen 4 parts of lost . . . shame on me !
i agree with you about foreigners. i like talking wit them :)




نقل قول:

نوشته اصلی توسط Saba_Baran90 (پست 259857)
Hey Guys



First of all honestly I didn't read all of your posts,But I've still got enough to say
A. Nice to see you Dane Kolane. We awe Maryam the pleasure of your presence

B. I totally like the idea I mean when you are stuck in a situation, what could possibly be more of relief than to know other people struggling with the same condition as you

I feels awesome to know that you are not the only one who's got that problem
Sharing experiences always works
I personally feel like I'm the only person on earth who's stuck like me sometimes and It would feel amazing to be proven wrong
There might not be a lot of this groups in Iran, But I think we can still share!



nice Sabi :)
i liked this senyence of you: Sharing experiences always works.
you know it better than me




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نوشته اصلی توسط دانه کولانه (پست 259873)
No i think there are some groups which include people living with cancer



and you know there is a group made by Darioush recently for addicts
generally i think there are many difficulty for making a group or community in IRAN for political reasons
as i mentioned using the others experiences can be very useful but imagine who wants to speak about his experiences at an AIDS group in Iran

thanks mehregan but my ability at writing in English is poor
maryam and islander and jojetighi! are 3of a kind !
یه توضیح کوچولو برای مهرگان و صبا دکتر احمدی دکتر احمدی(آرش و محمود) و یه دکتر احمدی دیگه از یه گروه دیگه توی یه جلسه ای بوده اند که دکتر رجبزاده هم بوده (حالا امیدوارم گوگل نکنند اینو !) ایشون خطاب به یکی گفته اینها تری آف ا کایند هستند( این یک اصلاح در بازی پوکر هست !)



i could not understand what maryam said at all !

maybe Foreigner are more honest but really implementation of their experiences in our life may cause some serious problems for us
we want you islander to be talkative at persian too ! not only in site.
-----------
the god from saba's hands!
she does not read our posts completely but she can talk enough!
maybe we can categorize these groups in to 2 parts
general groups
and specific problems group
the point you mentioned ,know that you are not the only one who's got that problem, can be find at general groups

Dane Kolane !
how many dr.Ahmadies we have in uni ! i don't know Arash.
that was a nice sentence, 3 of a kind :)

honostly, i think all managers of the forum have the same feeling with me, when ever i see you are interested in the topics and come here, and write things makes us more interesting, too :)

i know what you said about supporting groups . what do you mean by this: really implementation of their experiences in our life may cause some serious problems for us
?

God from Admin's hand !
:24::24:

دانه کولانه 04-21-2012 12:23 AM

you can remember i have introduced m.naseri at pm cant you ?

arash ahmadi is one of the best member of electrical engineering department of razi uni
sometimes he teaches MicroProcessors
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i know what you said about . what do you mean by this: really implementation of their experiences in our life may cause some serious problems for us
?
I meant we live in a different context of living in comparison with Foreigner therefore implementing their experiences in incompatible conditions and contexts may cause some problems .


مهرگان 04-21-2012 12:25 AM

talking about support groups + pic
 
@Maryam Gian:

i think pictures absorb others to come here :) and participate in our discussion :)


What Is A Support Group?

In a support group, members provide each other with various types of help, usually nonprofessional and nonmaterial, for a particular shared, usually burdensome, characteristic.
The help may take the form of providing and evaluating relevant information, relating personal experiences, listening to and accepting others' experiences, providing sympathetic understanding and establishing social networks. A support group may also work to inform the public or engage in advocacy.

adapted from: Wiki Pedia

looks good


مهرگان 04-21-2012 12:27 AM

نقل قول:

نوشته اصلی توسط دانه کولانه (پست 259879)
you can remember i have introduced m.naseri at pm cant you ?



arash ahmadi is one of the best member of electrical engineering department of razi uni
sometimes he teaches MicroProcessors
I meant we live in a different context of living in comparison with Foreigner therefore implementing their experiences in incompatible conditions and contexts may cause some problems .

i don;t know why i thought Islander is a man . . . :(
now i got what you meant, and you're right

Islander 04-21-2012 12:29 PM

نقل قول:

نوشته اصلی توسط دانه کولانه (پست 259873)
No i think there are some groups which include people living with cancer
and you know there is a group made by Darioush recently for addicts
generally i think there are many difficulty for making a group or community in IRAN for political reasons
as i mentioned using the others experiences can be very useful but imagine who wants to speak about his experiences at an AIDS group in Iran



maybe Foreigner are more honest but really implementation of their experiences in our life may cause some serious problems for us
we want you islander to be talkative at persian too ! not only in site.
-----------




It’s really nice to hear that, It could be a very good start. and you are right, we are forbidden to have for example AIDS groups at the first place. then if we had, people cannot talk easily there!!! So what will be the point? As a matter of fact we have a very long way to go..

نقل قول:

نوشته اصلی توسط دانه کولانه (پست 259873)
maryam and islander and jojetighi! are 3of a kind



Oh, maybe I got “Multiple personality” !!!! I confess I have some other names too!!! But the good part is you can call me each one that you prefer!!!


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نوشته اصلی توسط دانه کولانه (پست 259873)
we want you islander to be talkative at persian too ! not only in site


very nice of you!! I always try But Joojetighis cannot talk too much
!!!!

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نوشته اصلی توسط مهرگان (پست 259877)




you have 'ekhtiar !' how do we say that in english?
this topic is so nice that i think about it sometimes a day and think about what ti write when i read the posts, tnx dear, honestly i thought you are a man ! dont know why ! once Dane Kolane named you as : m.Naseri and i thought it is: Mr.Naseri ! so 'ke intowr !' (please thell me that, too in english !) no, this topic is absolutly good, well done dear :)



ow! dane knows how i love movies ! you know, i watch a movie once a year ! i have just seen 4 parts of lost . . . shame on me !
i agree with you about foreigners. i like talking wit them :)





Thanks dear, very sweet of you. Really glad you liked it.
But taking me as a man seems so strange to me Dear Meheregan!!! Any way I’m really glad you know I’m a girl now!! Because I was talking to you as a girl to another girl, may seems rude for a gentleman talking to a lady that just Met !!!!!!!:d:d
I guess “So, That’s it” is a fine replace for “ke intur” !

And Don’t worry dear, you can finish Lost after this semester examinations. I recommend it because it’s helpful for listening and learning routine conversation.

Sharing experiences always works
I like this expression too Dear Saba, I agree. And I think it really worked good, that get this much Important.


Dear Mehregan Thank you for your suggestions, very kind of you. I will check them out..



And That “The God from somebody’s Hand” was So funny!! I just read it several times, didn’t understand!! Then I said I will ask or Google it!!! But at last I found out
!!!




مهرگان 04-30-2012 09:54 AM

?"have you ever heard anything about "Online Supporting Groups
 
?"have you ever heard anything about "Online Supporting Groups
Online supporting groups :)

while doing an activity called: Web gardi ! in persian, i faced something interesting and worth to be written here, in Maryam's nice topic :)

there are so many sites on the internet, (actually, on the internet, or n the internet? which one is correct?) that provide facilities so that you can be a member of an imaginary supporting group. looks nice, i think i can be more active there, and i said before, i can be more comfortable with foreigners.
here is the site i enjoyed: http://www.dailystrength.org

گروه های حامی مجازی
در جریان وبگردی هایم ! به موضوع جالبی برخورد کردم و فکر کردم که ارزش اینو داره که در تاپیک مریم عزیز نوشته بشه :)
سایت های زیادی در اینترنت وجود دارند که امکانی رو برای شما فراهم میکنند که عضو یه گروه حامی بشید. به نظرم خیلی خوبه و خود من مثلا، میتونم اونجا فعال تر باشم، چون
همونطور که قبلا هم گفتم، با اجنبی ها ! راحت ترم !
اون هم لینک یکی از سایت های گروه های حامیه :)


Islander 04-30-2012 11:57 AM

Thank you Dear Mehregan, I had a look and joined too. It can be a good experience. The Most interesting thing is the variety of groups. I explore many of them, and really surprised. there is every thing that you can think about!!!!
But you know, I guess there will be some difference culture problems for us, I mean they may not understand us.we are somehow familiar with their culture because of their international movies,but they know nothing about us. Maybe their solutions and experiences won't work for us!!! Of course I'm not sure,we can try it.

by the way very Lovely picture and nice translation for " support Group" I thought a lot but couldn't find any thing



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